KnutHandsome
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Just curious - I'm sure it will be back up soon.
What has become of that list?
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KnutHandsome
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FWIW
Ok, for anyone who primarily accesses it through the web front end, and has (like me) assumed it has been down for 3 weeks, it appears to be functioning as normal through the email subscription list.
Obviously I completely missed this notice highlighted at the top of the home page before:
Ok, for anyone who primarily accesses it through the web front end, and has (like me) assumed it has been down for 3 weeks, it appears to be functioning as normal through the email subscription list.
Obviously I completely missed this notice highlighted at the top of the home page before:
Peg said:
what, no backups, not even a year old one ?
so, all the messages, technical articles, downloads etc. are gone ?
so, all the messages, technical articles, downloads etc. are gone ?
KnutHandsome
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KnutHandsome
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I would be amazed if that was the case - more likely it's just not accessible through the web yet.
even if it is, taking a month to restore from backup isn't good.
this is a paid service after all.
this is a paid service after all.
KnutHandsome
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It's hard to argue with that, considering the regular, quite vehement discussions on that subject.
Yes I am a bit suprised at this as well.... it looks like they have a backup of the raw messages, but not the html version of the messages, nor the scripts that did the conversion work. And looks like many other scripts and pages were lost as well... they were talking about trying to retrieve some of this using web based archives of the site.
I know I have 4 complete copies of all of the ProgressTalk pages and database right now on 4 different disk drives on 2 seperate servers. So getting back online after a server crash would take 5-10 minutes to be at the point of the last nightly backup. Even if my data center went under (which is impossible since it's the Level 3 datacenter in Newark, NJ), I could have the backups on another server within hours.
I hope the lesson of backup, backup, backup is learned here.
I know I have 4 complete copies of all of the ProgressTalk pages and database right now on 4 different disk drives on 2 seperate servers. So getting back online after a server crash would take 5-10 minutes to be at the point of the last nightly backup. Even if my data center went under (which is impossible since it's the Level 3 datacenter in Newark, NJ), I could have the backups on another server within hours.
I hope the lesson of backup, backup, backup is learned here.
That's true, and I would agree with trying to update some of the outdated technologies that are used. But I know many people depend on the message archives and search that was on the site.... having it down for so long while this is done seems like a huge inconviences for some people.
I mean, there's a poor guy posting today that lost his job, and since the job's list archive is gone, he can't even contact some companies/recruiters with his resume.
i'm not sure that's the case, but that's not good either.
i believe i've heard the site will be upgraded 4 times in the past 2 years.
anyone has a copy of the monographs ?
i also need to do a search about pdf include as soon as possible.
tamhas
ProgressTalk.com Sponsor
what good would that do ?
i need to search the messages to find an answer.
i need to search the messages to find an answer.
good one 
bwt i found the answer i was looking for,
Chris, thanks for the link!
bwt i found the answer i was looking for,
Chris, thanks for the link!
TomBascom
Curmudgeon
Nothing is impossible... especially in Newark. I hope at least one of your backups is in a different time-zone from the others. Or at least a different State.
And let us not forget to be testing and validating our backups too.
Nothing is impossible... especially in Newark. I hope at least one of your backups is in a different time-zone from the others. Or at least a different State.
Very true
I do keep a copy locally in PA though, although I don't update that every day (I probably should).Yup, a backup isn't any good if you don't practice restoring it somewhere to make sure you've got it all correct. I know of too many companies that would backup their databases nightly, but never test restoring them. And sometimes they found out they had problems restoring them for whatever reason when they needed to recover from an issue.
... need another search about activex.
hard to believe, but it looks like all the knowledge collected over the years is gone.
without the knowledge base part, peg has lost alot of it's appeal. not sure i'll renew this year.
i'm sorry but it's irresponsible.
i don't need to tell anyone here what it would mean to a company if they last all their data ... or so i thought.
whether there were no backups (most likely) or Greg is not interested in restoring it.
hard to believe, but it looks like all the knowledge collected over the years is gone.
without the knowledge base part, peg has lost alot of it's appeal. not sure i'll renew this year.
i'm sorry but it's irresponsible.
i don't need to tell anyone here what it would mean to a company if they last all their data ... or so i thought.
whether there were no backups (most likely) or Greg is not interested in restoring it.
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